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	<title>Romey&#039;s Ramblings &#187; hermans hideaway</title>
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		<title>Reflections on Hermans</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Romey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In my <a href="http://www.romeyinfc.com/2008/09/04/house-drumsets-why-they-suck/" target="_blank">previous post</a> I alluded to Greenfoot&#8217;s show at <a href="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hermanshideaway.com%2F&amp;ei=0KPESOzPNoLItQO95b3xBw&amp;usg=AFQjCNG5w-IPzuaAwdXw-n6G2u_BTBhXXQ&amp;sig2=710XprC9zlIJg__l12Wj9A" target="_blank">Herman&#8217;s Hideaway</a> on Wednesday.&#160; For those who don&#8217;t live in Denver (or simply may not know) Herman&#8217;s has the reputation for being one of the area&#8217;s premier venues for live, local music in the state.&#160; We were definitely excited about playing there, even if it was on the &#8220;New Music Night&#8221;.</p>
<p>Herman&#8217;s is definitely a nice venue for live music. It has a nice big stage, and has a pretty nice size and layout.&#160; However, I personally like venues like <a href="http://www.buffalorose.net/" target="_blank">Buffalo Rose</a> and <a href="http://www.dnote.us/" target="_blank">The D-Note</a> better.</p>
<p>Musically we ended up playing pretty well.&#160; We played a show at 2 Doors Down the weekend before, which turned out to be an awesome show.&#160; We couldn&#8217;t help but come off a bit of a musical hangover from the previous show, Wednesday night couldn&#8217;t complete.&#160; Part of it is that I had a hard time adjusting to the house drumset.&#160; </p>
<p>Also during our set we were interrupted with the sound guy removing an amp stand that we were using, right in the middle of our show.&#160; It was pretty damn unprofessional: first off to use another band&#8217;s gear as &#8220;house&#8221; equipment is pretty crappy (either it&#8217;s &#8220;house&#8221; equipment or it&#8217;s not), and to do it in the middle of our set doesn&#8217;t show much respect for us on stage.</p>
<p>One other things about Herman&#8217;s frustrated us.&#160; One of the ways they gage a band&#8217;s success is by giving tickets to the bands, then counting the tickets that bands bring in.&#160; They distribute these tickets to bands &#8211; some discount, some comp tickets &#8211; and encourage the bands to distribute them.&#160; The tickets we got were comp tickets, which we assumed were &#8220;complimentary&#8221;. Apparently &#8220;comp&#8221; means something else at Herman&#8217;s, because fans that showed up with these tickets were charged $2 to come in.&#160; Making matters worse, our band didn&#8217;t get any of that money, meaning Herman&#8217;s pocketed it.&#160; Call it a miscommunication or getting ripped off, but the people who came to see us got screwed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t write this post to rip on the venue, and Greenfoot definitely wouldn&#8217;t turn down a venue, especially as popular as Herman&#8217;s, but the benefit of &#8220;New Music Night&#8221; is pretty questionable in our minds right now.</p>
<p>Bethany took some really cool pictures from the show. Check them out below:</p>
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		<title>House Drumsets [why they suck]</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Romey</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Last night Greenfoot played a show over at Herman&#8217;s Hideaway (for which I&#8217;ll offer some additional thoughts in a later post).&#160; As part of the &#8220;New Talent Showcase&#8221;, one of the important stipulations were the two dreaded words drummers hate to hear &#8220;House Drumset&#8221;.</p>
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<p>I cringed when I heard the news, and after playing the set last evening, my dread was justified.</p>
<p>I understand the reasons why venue owners and concert promoters want to use House Drumsets.&#160; When you have multiple bands in one evening, you want to do everything to ensure bands get on and off the stage quickly.&#160; Having a large piece of equipment remain stationary makes sense, especially when the drums have mics attached to them.&#160; However, I can guaranteed that the person who made/promoted that decision <strong>is not a drummer</strong>.</p>
<p>When I&#8217;m asked what it&#8217;s like playing on a house drum set, I give the analogy of driving someone else&#8217;s car in a race: Yes, you&#8217;ll be able to drive the car and you know where the gas, brake &amp; steering wheel are, but you don&#8217;t know the intricacies of this car. You don&#8217;t know how it accelerates, how it breaks, how it handles around curves.&#160; The same things goes with drum sets.&#160; It bothers me that people wouldn&#8217;t fathom telling guitar players to play on someone else&#8217;s guitar, yet have no problem telling drummers they have to play a drum set that gets pounded night in &amp; night out.</p>
<p>This particular drum set appeared to have a 10&#8243;, 13&#8243; &amp; 16&#8243; with Pinstripe heads torque&#8217;d pretty high.&#160; What this means is that they were &#8220;ping-y&#8221; and &#8220;ring-&#8221;, a stark contrast from my darker ebony heads that produce a warmer tone that works with our music.&#160; In addition, I had to grow used to 3 toms pretty quick, a departure from my 4 toms.&#160; It doesn&#8217;t help that I flip the order of my two rack toms &#8211; the non-standard configuration probably a bad habit, but it&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve grown accustomed to.&#160; In my bass drum I have a pillow, which produces a more muffled sound, while allowing a good bounce response.&#160; The House Drumset had no such pillow, and it took an adjustment.</p>
<p>The policy allowed us to bring in our snare drum, pedals &amp; cymbals. At this point, the only thing that was left of the drum set was the bass drum and three toms &#8211; which makes me wonder how much time was really saved.&#160; </p>
<p>What owners/promoters don&#8217;t understand is that if you give them a staging area to set up their gear off-stage, a good drummer can get their drum on stage and ready to go in roughly the same time it takes a guitar player to set up their amp, pedals, and tune their guitars.</p>
<p>When I was in high school, I played on a foreign drum set each and every day &#8211; but school drum sets are different than House Drumsets.&#160; With school drum sets you typically get a period of time to be acclimated to the kit before you play it at anything meaningful.&#160; With the House Kit the sound check is the first chance you get to sit behind the kit.&#160; To borrow a line from A.I., &#8220;We&#8217;re talking about practice, not the game&#8221;.&#160; I&#8217;m all about rehearsing on another drum set to help save time &#8211; but when you&#8217;re essentially putting on an audition it&#8217;s pretty lofty to expect drummers to be in their elements in a kit they just started playing.</p>
<p>Like I said, I understand House Drum set may make sense to some, but it doesn&#8217;t make sense to drummers.</p>
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